Unexplained Infertility
December 1, 2004 - Wednesday
2:27 PM to 3:27 PM (EST)
Guest Speakers: Andrew Levi, MD
Categories
Endometriosis •
Infertility •
IVF •
Miscarriage •
Ovulation
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| Lisa_Rosenthal | Welcome everyone... |
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| Leece | thanks, Lori |
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| riki | what is your opinion on sperm antibody testing for unexplained secondary infertility |
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| Leece | Dr. Levi, how do you define unexplained? |
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| Dr._Levi | hi riki -- sperm abntibody testing is contraversial -- in general, i don't test for it -- i recommend either iui or ivf to circumvent any possible "antobody" problems. |
| jessica | Can I get pregnant even if I don't get my period more than 3 times a year? |
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| Dr._Levi | leece -- in general, unexplained infetility (UI) is infertiltiy where the evaluation (male and female) finds no "significant problems" -- we don't know why a couple is having problems conceiving. |
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| JenniferL | Does clomid generally effect the length of a person's menstrual cycle? And if so, does that effect poorly on ovulation? |
| Dr._Levi | Jessica -- you can get pregnant -- you just need help ovulating! |
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| jessica | Dr. Levi, I have beem trying to get pregnant for 18 months, but I can't time it cause I do not always get my period |
| Leece | thank you. Can you be unexplained if all things check out well but you're 39 years old? Does my age make me not unexplained? |
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| Dr._Levi | JenniferL -- sometimes the cycle can be altered by Clomid. However, it does not usually affect or impact ovulation -- unless the patient did not ovulate -- that would be a problem. |
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| Blueeyes | Dr. Levi, I have been undergoing ART for the past year. I have been a “low responder” to the protocols, with negative outcomes on 2 IUI’s and 1 IVF cycle. All protocols have included Gonal F, some in conjunction w/Clomid and the other w/a microdose flare (Lupron) protocol. Have done the normal testing: SHG, HSG, Endo Biopsy, Post-Coital, Clomid Challenge - All fine or within "normal" range. My DX has been unexplained. Recently, I had some other testing done - immunology, loss and chromosome panels. Tests came back with high TSH and Glucose levels, positive for MTHFR and my thyroid levels indicate hypothyroidism. I have read/heard that these things can affect egg quality and quantity. I am seein |
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| riki | can you please explain why you generally do not do a sperm antibody test |
| Dr._Levi | jessica -- you need a good evaluation re: why you don't ovulate regularly -- once that is figured out, you should do fine! |
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| Dr._Levi | leece -- 39 is young, but reproductively, there could be an issue at the level of the egg. i would be appropriately aggressive with treatment based on your age. |
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| Dr._Levi | hi blue eyes -- i missed the end ou your question . . . |
| susang | What testing would you do before you diagnose patient with as unexplained infertility |
| jessica | Dr. Levi would I be able to make an appt with you to find out why I don't ovulate regularly? |
| pam | Dr, if Day3 FSH is normal, is it still possible for there to be a problem with ovarian function or egg quality? Age 36 |
| clarany | Dr. Levi I have a dilema. I did an IUI on 11/10. ON 11/23 (13dpiui) I had my first beta which was 29. The dr. told me it was low and he was concerned. On day 19 I went for a repeat beta and it's only 104. Is that a terrible number? I have mild cramping on and off during the day and I have been spotting since last thursday. Mostly a brown discharge but at times pink. The thing is also that at times I will get very bad lower back pains (very bad) that last about 10 minutes, it is after these lower back pains that I will spot pink. But after that it goes back to brown. my repeat beta is on monday and I am a wreck. I am scared and don't know what to expect. My progesterone is great 37, and my |
| Dr._Levi | riki -- i don't routinely do antibody testing because the result of the test (which is not always easy to interpret) usually does not affect how i treat the patient. iui or ivf would be my next step regardless of the test result. |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | A big thank you to Dr. Levi for joining us here this evening. Unexplained Infertility can be a frustrating diagnosis. |
| Leece | Dr. Levi, I just got preg for the first time after 2 years trying but had a m/c...that was on my first series of bravelle...in your opinion, would that mean injections are aggressive enough |
| Dr._Levi | susang -- a normal basal FSH, normal HSG amd SHG, normal ovulation, and a normal semen analysis would be unexplained. sometimes a normal laproscopy wouold also be part of the results as well. |
| riki | When at what age do you recommend a Day 3 FSH test |
| Dr._Levi | jessica --absolutely. we can get contact information to you later. |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | Clara, is there a specific reason that you have to wait until Monday? |
| clarany | he said it would give him a better idea after a week |
| pam | what is considered a normal semen analysis ? is it possible to have a possible semen analysis and the find out through a sperm wash that there might be a problem? |
| Dr._Levi | pam -- day 3 FSH is not a great test. a "normal" test is not always normal. abnormal is always abnormal. thus a patient could have a normal test yet still have an egg problem . . . |
| jessica | thank you Dr. Levi, how do I contact you? |
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| clarany | Dr. Levi did you get to read my question? |
| Stephen | Hi Lisa and Dr. Levi, are men ever considered unexplained? |
| Blueeyes | Reposting for Dr.: I have been undergoing ART for the past year. I have been a "low responder" to the protocols, with negative outcomes on 2 IUI’s and 1 IVF cycle. All protocols have included Gonal F, some in conjunction w/Clomid and the other w/a microdose flare (Lupron) protocol. Have done the normal testing: SHG, HSG, Endo Biopsy, Post-Coital, Clomid Challenge - All fine or within “normal” range. My DX has been unexplained. Recently, I had some other testing done - immunology, loss and chromosome panels. Tests came back with high TSH and Glucose levels, positive for MTHFR and my thyroid levels indicate hypothyroidism. I have read/heard that these things can affect egg quality and quantity. |
| Liz | Dr. Levi, Was dx'd w/ mild endometriosis over a year ago. Several md's told me this was the reason not getting pregnant. Current md at reputable ny clinic says this level of endo doesn't explain. Therefore it is 'unexplained." Just went through IVF (1st time) and got pregnant. HCG low and lost it after a week. MD says it was probably chromosomal abnormalities (had 2 "beautiful blastocysts") We are on round 2. Should I be thinking about other testing? Is mild endo not enough to explain 2+ yrs infertility? Are there other things they should be looking for esp. if round 2 doesn't work? Thanks. |
| Dr._Levi | clarany -- no worrries! early hcgs are notoriously wrong. don't look into things -- just take it one day and week at a time. your progesterone is great! |
| clarany | Would the progesterone be a sign that it's not ectopicc? |
| clarany | and what about the pains and spotting |
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| Dr._Levi | leece -- i would stay with the same protocol. i'm sorry for your loss, but i imagine you will be successful soon with the same approach. |
| pam | thank you Dr. do you suggest retesting FSH if it appeared "normal"? |
| Leece | Thanks Dr. ! |
| Dr._Levi | riki -- all woman with subfertility should have their fhs check on day 3, regardless of age. |
| Dr._Levi | jessica -- you can email me at ajlevi99@yahoo.com |
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| Dr._Levi | pam -- a normal semen analysis is "normal" for volume, motility, morphology (how they look), and count. |
| susang | Which protocol would suggest for unexplained infertility at age 29 |
| jessica | thank you Dr. Levi, where is your office to make an appointment, I'm in New Jersey? |
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| riki | were is your practice located |
| Dr._Levi | stephen -- no ,if men have a normal SA, they are "normal", not unexplained. in general, unexplained refers to couples, not patients. |
| Dr._Levi | hi blueeyes -- i think that your egg quality and embryo quality at IVF is important in terms of your diagnosis. that's what i would like to see. |
| jessica | And Dr. Levi, do you accept United Healthcare |
| Dr._Levi | hi liz -- i agree. ivf usually bypasses endo anyway. i would recommend a good uterine evaluation. maybe implantation (the uterus) was the issue, not embryo quality. |
| riki | what is your opinion on SCSA |
| jessica | what is SCSA? |
| clarany | Dr. Levi what's the soonest to see a Sac? |
| Liz | Thanks Dr. Levi. What could be done to help implantation? I was on progesterone shots immediately following egg retrieval. |
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| Lisa_Rosenthal | Ladies and Gentlemen, Dr. Levi will be able to list his affiliation on our message board at some point in the future. |
| Dr._Levi | clarany -- in general, a progesterone (not on meds) over 25 is a good sign and usually not an ectopic. the pain and bleeding can be from a lot of things. however, like all patients, you should be followed closely to be certain that the pregancy is in the uterus. |
| Liz | .. also, I had a HSG 1.5 years ago and all was normal. Is there another exam? |
| Dr._Levi | pam -- yes, retesting can be helpful. you can also have a Clomid challenge test done, which is very good for being certain that there are no "ovarian reserve" issues. |
| Wannababy | Hi Doctor, doesn't unexplained just mean that the diagnosis can't be figured out? |
| clarany | One last thing Dr. Levi. The problem the last 5 RE's have had is that my ovaries are to high to be seen vaginally. They can only be seen via pelvic sono cause they are so high. Is this a condition?? All the dr's are surprised at this |
| Dr._Levi | susang -- in general, for folks <30, I either use Clomid, Clomid with injections, or lose-dose injections. i would also recommend insemination in case the cervix is acting as a barrier. |
| Dr._Levi | jessica -- i'm in fairfield county, connecticut - i can direct you to a clinic in nj assuming that's easier for you. |
| susang | How do you know if the cervix acts as a barrier? |
| Dr._Levi | jessica -- email me to discuss details . . . |
| clarany | Dr. Levi what is your e-mail address? And where is your office located |
| pam | what do you recommend for women over 35? and how often do you recommend HSG's to rule out blockages? |
| Dr._Levi | riki -- SCSA has not been shown to affect outcome. i would not recommend such testing. |
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| Dr._Levi | clarany -- usually at about 5 weeks or when the hCG is above 1500. |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | Dr. Levi, you are doing a wonderful job, with some interesting, complicated questions. Thanks so much for your time, energy and knowledge this evening! |
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| pam | I agree. Thank you very much. |
| Leece | me too, thanks |
| Dr._Levi | Liz -- consider a hysteroscopy and SHG to better evaluate the uterus. also, consider vaginal progesterone as well. |
| Liz | Thanks, Dr. Levi. Had HSG 1.5 years ago and all was fine. Is there any other test that should be done to addresss possible implantation problems. Is there anything that can be done to enhance implantation? |
| Sid | Is the assumption if a male tests fine, that the problem is with the woman? |
| Dr._Levi | wannababy -- i see it as that the testing doesn't show any "big" problems. probably something subtle that is preventing pregnancy. |
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| Dr._Levi | clarany -- have you had a laparoscopy? maybe they are "stuck" up high and can be released. |
| clarany | no i haven't |
| Liz | Thanks again. What is SHG? What would be the purpose of additional vaginal progesterone? Is hysteroscopy surgery? |
| riki | At what size does a follicle have to be in order to give anHSG shot to cause rupture. Is it possible that the follicle will rupture prematurely and is it a medical problem if it does? |
| jessica | Dr. Levi, I emailed you so you can send me information. My job is in rye new york, so i could come to fiarfield after work or on a saturday, if you are taking new patients?? |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | Dr. Levi, can you give an idea of prognosis with a true "unexplained" infertility diagnosis? In other words, a diagnosis that is made after appropriate testing. |
| Dr._Levi | susang -- the testing for cervical problems unfortunately is poor. in cases of unexplained infertility, it's best to just bypass the cervix and perform insemination. |
| clarany | Dr. Levi .. I also asked them if I can do IVF through laparoscopy. (cause they said normal retriveal is to difficult with high ovaries) and he said they don't do that anymore. CAn I find a dr. that will do retreiveal Via LAPAROSCOPY? |
| Orly | I look forward to being able to make an appointment with you! I got more information this evening than i have from my own doctor. |
| mindy | We have been trying to concieve since I was 36 have had two miscarriages and am undecided about fertility treatment at age 40 ...if ivf is only limited success in older woment what is success rate of concieving on my own |
| clarany | ORLY I AGREE 100% |
| Dr._Levi | pam -- an HSG every 1-2 years will suffice. |
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| susang | Can there be cervical problems if I have conceived twice but both ended in miscarriages |
| pam | can different diagnositc info be obtained from a sperm wash than from a semen analysis? |
| Dr._Levi | sid -- a normal analysis just means the #s look good. it doesn't mean that the sperm can get to where they need to. in cases of unexplained infertility, i often recommend insemination. after a few cycles, maybe it's time to move on to ivf. |
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| Dr._Levi | liz -- SHG is sonohysterogram -- ultrasound to best visualize the uterine lining. a hysteroscopy is using a fiberoptic camera -- usually done in the office, takes me about 45 seconds to do. |
| Liz | Thanks again. What is SHG? What would be the purpose of additional vaginal progesterone? Is hysteroscopy surgery? |
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| Dr._Levi | liz -- some folks do well with vaginal prog because of the local effect . . . |
| Liz | thank you! |
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| Dr._Levi | riki -- it depends on if you are doing medication or not . . . usually, 18-22 mm. |
| Wannababy | How old is too old for using your own eggs? |
| jessica | what do you see in 45 seconds, that you are looking for on liz's question Dr. Levi? |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | Jessica, can you restate your question? It seems unclear. |
| Dr._Levi | Lisa R -- folks generally do quote well if they are diagnosed with UI. They may need IUI or IVF, but in the end, many to most are pregnant. |
| riki | Whathappens if I have a LH surge when my follicle is only17mm on a natural cycle. Can that be a medical problem and if yes how do you resolve. |
| jessica | And Dr. Levi is it possible to not have my period because maybe I don't have eggs? |
| Dr._Levi | Clarany -- i bet we can get your eggs out vaginally . . . |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | Ladies and Gentlemen, if you can stick to using black type, it makes it easier for the speaker to see which are questions. Thank you. |
| clarany | DO U THINK SO DR. LEVI?? iF THIS PREGNANCYdon't work out I will hold u to that |
| clarany | lol |
| Dr._Levi | mindy -- 2 miscarriages -- you probably should be evaluated to make sure you don't have a propensity for miscarriage. if you are now having problems getting pregnant, appropriate treatment is warranted. |
| Liz | sorry to be ignorant, but what do you mean by the "local effect" of vaginal progesterone (vs. injection?)? |
| Dr._Levi | susang -- if you conceived without insemination in the past, your cervix is likely not an issue -- unless you've had surgery since. |
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| Dr._Levi | pam -- the information at a sperm wash is inferior to that found by analysis. |
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| Dr._Levi | wannababy -- it gets tough after 42-43 . . . |
| pam | thank you. that is helpful to know. |
| Dr._Levi | jessica -- i look for polyps, fiboids, scar tissue, or inflammation. |
| mindy | can you define propensity, we had tissue of faetus evaluated, I had tests to determine that I was not rejecting the preganancy? other suggestions? |
| Wannababy | what if i have great fsh and am a good responder? |
| Dr._Levi | riki -- you may be ovulating prematurely. ask your doc about ganirelix, which can be used to bolck premature ovulation. |
| pam | when does unexplained infertility become age related infertility, Dr? |
| susang | Conceived after trying one cycle of injections gonal f 75iu (ended miscarriage due to abnormal chromosomes) , do I have a chance of conceiving natural. |
| Dr._Levi | jessica -- no -- you have eggs -- we just need to help you to ovulate them. |
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| jessica | Thank you Dr. Levi, that has been haunting me all along. |
| Dr._Levi | liz -- sorry -- sometimes if the progesterone is "close" to the uterine lining it is absorbed better. |
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| jessica | But how do we really know, is there a test to see if I have eggs? |
| Dr._Levi | mindy -- i'd have to see what you've had done -- often the evaluation is incomplete . . . |
| lilly | What is the difference between repronex and follistim? My doctor put me only on follistim instead of repronex and follistim. |
| riki | Can you provide me with more details on premature ovulation and about ganirelix how it works. |
| Dr._Levi | wannababy -- you are a good responder if you "respond" well to the medications. the fsh is just a test. we need to see if you respond to the meds! |
| Manda | OK, so I was just going to listen, BUT, I'm 26, never used birth control, never gotten pregnant, been trying seriously for 18 months. any suggestions? |
| Dr._Levi | pam, i begin to think that things are not so unexplained once a woman is 35-37. at the point, the eggs can certainly become an issue. |
| mindy | what is the success rate for a woman age 40 with ivf |
| Dr._Levi | jessica -- ivf is the only way to see if the eggs are present. i have no doubt that you have eggs. |
| pam | is the only way to ultimately know if eggs are an issue through IVF? |
| Dr._Levi | lilly -- do real difference in terms of stimulating your ovaries. sometime we use repronex in women with low LH levels. |
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| jessica | I thought IVF was a way to get pregnant, not a test to see if I have eggs, but in that case do I need the ivf test? |
| Dr._Levi | riki -- it is a little compication for this forum. ganirelix blocks the body's own drive to surge, thus blocking ovulation from occuring too early. we then give hCG to induce ovulation. |
| Dr._Levi | manda -- time for a good, thorough evalution -- check out the tubes and uterus, check the sperm, and make sure you are ovulating. and a baseline FSH as well. |
| clarany | So Dr. Levi although my hcg # are low, and I am spotting and cramping but good progesterone and lining there is still hope for this pregnancy? |
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| Leece | Dr what about Bravelle, Follistim and Gonal-F, are they given for more specific reasons also |
| Dr._Levi | mindy, in general the preg rates are about 25-30% at "good" programs; unfortuately, the "take-home baby rate" is much lower. |
| pam | how do you know if a program is "good"? |
| Dr._Levi | pam -- i'd recommend a clomid challenge test to best assess ovarian reserve. |
| STang | Dr. Levi, my wife has regular period and temperature surge but has hard time getting ovulation reading from OvuQuick. We tried iui (unsuccessful) last month. Chromid did help bringing out ovulation reading. We are told to do more cycles. Do you consider missing ovulation reading "unexplained" ? (we went through various check/analysis without any problem). |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | Dr. Levi, do you consider a day 3 FSH check part of any evaluation, no matter what the age of the patient? |
| Dr._Levi | jessica -- we do not do ivf to test eggs. however, it is a way to see the eggs coincidentlly. ivf is not done just to llok at the eggs. |
| Stephen | What about PGD to test eggs? |
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| Dr._Levi | clarany -- how many weeks are you and what is your hcg? |
| mindy | how reliable are the ovulation kits for predicting ovulation? |
| riki | Very interesting. I have been to 3 specialist and they all say unexplained. I had 6 IUI's on clomid and natural cycles however my feeling was that they were missing something . How do you determine premature ovulation |
| Dr._Levi | pam -- just have them show you their pregnancy rates! |
| clarany | I am 3 weeks gestation |
| jessica | Oh ok, I'll wait to ask you some more questions when you answer my email to make an appointment. Thanks |
| clarany | My HCG on day 13 dpiui was 29 DAy 19 DPIUI it was 104 .. Progesterne 37 |
| clarany | 3 weeks gestation |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | Pam, pregnancy rates can be checked through the CDC website and through SART. Pregnancy rates are not the only way to evaluate a program. |
| Dr._Levi | Stang -- i'd recommend midcycle ultrasound monitoring and blood testing. i think you're through with the home kits! |
| jessica | Dr. Levi what are your pregnancy rates? |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | Please consider calling our patient advocate, Lori Masi for a referral in your area. |
| Dr._Levi | Lisa R -- all women with subfertility should have a basal FSH checked -- it's so easy to do. |
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| pam | Lisa, how else can you evaluate a program? |
| susang | Conceived after trying one cycle of injections gonal f 75iu ( ended in mis. due to abnormal chromosomes) Do I have chances of conceiving naturally |
| Dr._Levi | Stephen -- PGD checks embryos rather than eggs. PGD is another topic unto itself . . . |
| pam | what is SART? |
| Dr._Levi | mindy -- studies show that they can be wrong 7-10% of the time. |
| Dr._Levi | clarany -- i think you'll do great, but it's a bit too early to tell for sure . . . |
| lilly | How would I know the quality of my eggs? My last ivf I had 6 follicles they looks perfect (divided to 6,6,6, and 8,8,), they transferred 5 of them and said that the reason it did not work was because the eggs were retrieved too big(20 mm). IÕm 40, Could it be the reason that it did not work? Or I should be worried about something else. |
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| Lisa_Rosenthal | SART is Society of |
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| Dr._Levi | susang -- you do -- but just make sure that you stay on track! |
| susang | what do you mean on track? |
| Dr._Levi | lilly -- could be an egg/embryo quality issue. it might be best to try again. |
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| Lisa_Rosenthal | Society of Assisted Reproductive Technology- the association that does a tremendous job of self-regulation |
| Dr._Levi | susang -- if you stop treatment and try on your own, i'd recommend restarting treatment if you were not pregnant in a few months. |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | any program that does not report to SART or adhere to their guidlines should be suspect |
| pam | thank you Dr,Lisa.,Lori and AFA! What great support for us. |
| jessica | Lisa do you have a link to SART? |
| Liz | thanks, Dr. Levi. |
| mindy | the closest fertility treatment to me is 5 hours away, what suggestions for treatment with GP? |
| susang | Thanks |
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| Dr._Levi | mindy -- a gp can do a good job with clomid and maybe with injectable gonadotropins. some do sperm washes too. |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | Jessica, I believe that it is SART.org |
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Jessica call me tomorrow and I will get you the info |
| jessica | oh thank you Lisa |
| Lisa_Rosenthal | Dr. Levi, thanks so much for all your time and energy this evening. Will you join us again sometime soon? |
| mindy | thanks all |
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| Glenda | Thanks Lisa and Dr. Levi |
| Dr._Levi | Lisa -- ANY TIME! Always an honor and a pleasure! |
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| Leece | I hope so you were the best so far Dr Levi |
| lilly | thank you Dr. Levi |
| jessica | I emailed you Dr. Levi, I want to set up an appointment, |
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Good Night and thank you Dr Levi for all the wonderful info! |
| jessica | bye |
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| lilly | Lori, I need a support group in ny |
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Lilly call me tomorrow at 888-917-3777 |
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